What follows is a list of ultramarathoners who provide ultrarunning coaching services. While this list is not exhaustive, it is also not meant as an endorsement of any particular coach. However, for one reason or another, I believe every coach included on this list is capable of providing outstanding guidance to any ultrarunner from beginner to trail veteran. A good coach is one who provides the services you need when you need them, motivates you to train and achieve your goals, has a system you can believe in, and, most importantly, has a personality that works with your own. All fees noted in the list are as of November 2008.
Ultramarathon coach Paul Dewitt left an insightful comment regarding the reasons why someone might want to be coached for an ultramarathon when he wrote:
1. Somebody who has decided she wants to run an ultra, but really doesn't have a built-in support system of other local runners to run with and learn from. Many of these runners mistakenly believe that, "If I ran 45 miles a week for that marathon last year, I probably need to run 100 miles a week to do a 50 mile." For this runner, it is really a mentoring situation and giving reassurance that the amount of running they are doing is fine; they just need to work on some of the logistics and strategy aspects of longer running, such as fueling.To those, I would add a fourth type of ultrarunner who benefits from coaching:
2. A good runner who is already putting in plenty of effort and getting good results, but has never had a structured training program (never ran in high school or college) and feels like he isn't getting the most out of his efforts.
3. Somebody who has had a really bad first ultra experience and is very apprehensive about giving another one a shot unless they feel like they have a better chance of finishing, etc.
4. Somebody who, for whatever reason, desires to be held accountable in their training. This is little different from the many individuals who hire personal trainers for years on end. The possible reasons behind this desire for accountability are too numerous to name.If you have been coached for an ultramarathon by any of the following coaches or any other coach, those looking for a coach would certainly appreciate your thoughts. Please share you insight into the coach's personality, training philosophy, etc. What worked for you? What didn't? While both positive and negative opinions are encouraged and anonymous posting is permitted, please be respectful.
Coaches should also feel free to add their voices to the comments. A few words about your training philosophy or unique aspects of your coaching services would be particularly welcome.
Ultramarathon Coaches
Lisa Smith-Batchen
Lisa Smith-Batchen has the most ultramarathon coaching experience of any of the coaches listed here. (Lisa's bio) She's is a great person who's current and former students often sing her praise. Lisa undoubtedly knows how to coach runners from the back-of-pack to ultramarathon champions. Lisa also puts on races and running camps along with her husband, Jay. You can get a better sense of Lisa on her blog. You can also read Lisa's students' testimonials. Now, something from Lisa:My coaching goes far past ultra running. I have such a variety of people I coach. From people who want to drop 100 pounds to even some who need to gain a few pounds. I have students who are training for there first 5k race, marathon and many who run multi-day races, as well as adventures races. I have done many adventures races, Ironmans, and so on. I just had 2 students do very well at Ironman Hawaii, 2 at Ironman Florida and 5 who in 2 weeks will be at Ironman AZ! So... as you can see my coaching has a wide range and this gives me great joy! I coached Mike Wardian for 2 years...look where he is today!:) My philosophy in coaching is that there is never one way to do things! Running is so much about not running! Most of my students cross train with yoga, pilates, swimming, biking, deep water running...snowshoeing, skate skiing... and guess what... I have had very few injuries in students over my many years coaching. There is not one schedule that will work for everyone, there is not one race plan, one nutrition plan... we are all so uniquely different. The fun comes from finding what works for a particular person. I have some students who run high mileage, but I see so many injuries and burn out from doing this. I see the best success with sound cross training and nutrition. Keep the training fun yet challenging! If you can dream it, you can do it!Lisa Smith-Batchen's coaching services - Lisa coaches runners for $250 per month.
Matt Hart
Matt Hart is the most versatile coach on this list. While he's currently a very strong mountain ultramarathoner, he comes from adventure racing and mountain biking backgrounds. (Matt's bio and race resume) While Matt's only been coaching full time since late 2005, this former Microsoft software test engineer knows running theory and data frontwards, backwards, and probably in third derivative hexadecimal. That said, Matt can do something even more impressive - that is reduce all the heady stuff to workouts and a plan anyone can understand. As a bonus, Matt's knowledge of gear is encyclopedic. He also assists with Lisa Smith-Batchen's Dreamchaser camps.Matt Hart's coaching services - While Matt doesn't post his coaching rates on his website, he does offer 3 different training packages.
Karl Meltzer
Not new to ultrarunning, Karl Meltzer is new to coaching. While he officially began coaching in early 2008, Karl began coaching a number of athletes in 2007. Karl did take some time off from coaching this year to run the Appalachian Trail. (You may have heard of Where's Karl?) While some youngsters have burst onto the ultramarathon scene of late, Karl is the dominant mountain 100 miler of the decade. (Karl's bio) If only a small portion of Karl's training and racing skills (not to mention toughness) rub off on his students, they're bound to improve greatly. Take a peak at Karl's entertaining blog.Karl Meltzer's coaching services - Karl offers one level of online coaching that runs $125 month or $700 for 6 months when paid in advance.
Scott Jurek
If you're still reading and don't know who Scott Jurek is then wake up and smell the wheat grass! As a refresher, Scott won 7 straight Western States Endurance Runs, has set course records at both the Badwater 135 and the Hardrock 100, and has won 3 straight Spartathlons. (Scott's full bio) Scott has been working as a physical therapist since 1998 and has coached since 2003, so Scott knows the human body as well as he knows how to train and race. Some folks would add Jurek's nutritional knowledge as a bonus. To get a better sense of Scott as a person, read his recently revived blog. You can also read a couple coaching testimonials.Scott Jurek's coaching services - Scott coaches by 75 minute sessions which run $75 individually, $600 for 6, and $1100 for 12.
Additional Ultramarathon Coaches
If none of the coaches above strike your fancy, you are looking for a more local coach, or perhaps a less costly one, take a look at these additional ultrarunning coaching options.
- Andy Jones-Wilkins - He'll get you to the finish of a 100 - cheap, as in free (or beer) - read his comment
- Michael Wardian - A top American 50k-100k runner from Virginia - email Mike directly at mwardian@rocketmail.com for more details (read iRunFar's interview with Mike)
- Paul Dewitt - A top ultramarathon from Colorado - $80 month for unlimited access
- Howard Nippert - Yet another top ultramarathoner who coaches. $100/month; $1000/year
- Derrick Spafford - This Canadian is a long time runner and coach. $90/month (3 month minimum)
- Coach Weber - $275 a month for this experienced coach with a great Q&A
- Kelly Wilson - ultramarathon coaching from Vermont - email Kelly directly at kellypersonaltrainer@yahoo.com - $399 for 6 months (plus $30 set up fee)
- AnyTrail Ultra Services - little information available - $45/month
- Bad to the Bone - trail runs & training/coaching - 90 minutes sessions (1=$110, 6=$600, 12=$1080)
- Terri Schneider - coaching, clinics & sport psychology - $199/month with multiple month discounts
- Tim Neckar - personal running coach in the Houston area
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37 comments:
Hello my name is George Velasco.I am a ultrarunner always in the back of the pack. Under Lisa Smith Batchens coaching in 2007 I finished 24 ultras.I completed 4 100s to include Western States 100,Grand Teton 100. Angeles Crest 100 and Javelina 100. In 2008 I completed The marathon Des Sables.
Follow the program and you will suceed. GPV
GPV
I am with you. Lisa coached me for 5 total years and at over 60 now I have never had any injury and getting up each day to workout was never a drag.
Lisa is on top of it all the time.
My vote is she is hands down the best coach.
Stu
Hi,
Just a comment about Lisa. She has been my coach since 2004- I have trained with her for a wide variety of events and expeditions. I've done 4 stage races, including the Marathon of Sands in Morocco, numerous marathons, some climbing, including Elbrus in Russia and Aconcagua in Argentina as well as biking events- including a trans-continental ride from L.A. to Boston this year. Lisa has helped me train for all of these- and considering that my goal is only to survive these events- she has helped me far surpass my dreams. She is not onle my good friend, but an excellent coach who I would highly recommend no matter your goal or athletic level.
Jim Simone
I'll continue the pro-Lisa comments here. She's coached me for the past year, and I can't believe what it's done for me. In three months, I went from struggling with injuries during 5-8 mile runs, to WINNING my first-ever ultra, the 50-mile Rocky Raccoon. Then, while my original goal had been just to finish the Marathon Des Sables two months later, and I did better than I ever could have imagined.
I'm not sure what it is, but she's got it. And she's a pretty darn nice and inspiring person, too.
Ted Archer
San Jose, CA
Another Lisa student here :) She has been my coach for three years and I LOVE HER AND HER COACHING! I have benefited so greatly from her training plans, her race plans, nutritional information, cross training, pep talks and so much more.
Well, I can also comment on Lisa, who I've been training with for several years now. I can't even begin to detail the tremendous benefits I've derived from having Lisa as a coach. One I can mention for sure - she also coaches my wife, which gets her out of the house, giving me some piece and quiet.
Hi, my name is Frank Fumich and Lisa has been my trainer for a number of years now. She has gotten me to the finish lines of many races..from Marathon des Sables to Badwater...from Ironmans to the tops of the highest mountains on multiple continents. She not only knows how to get me to top physical form, but knows how to train me when I'm injured, and get me healed. She's even in tuned with me enough to tell me to take some time off. So whether you're trying to run swim through Ironman challenges, run through deserts, or climb over mountains, Lisa has the knowledge and personal experience to guide anyone to their goals!!!!
Another ultrarunning coach is Howard Nippert: http://www.howardnippert.com/
I don't have any personal experience, but he is definitely an elite ultra runner.
Lisa's students, thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Peter,
Thanks for the reminder re Howard. I was just on his website the other day and embarrassed that I left him off the list.
Lisa Smith-Batchen is great. I went to her with the thoughts of trying my first marathon. She coached me through it and now I am aiming at a 50 mile run. I never thought I'd even consider that. Lisa is such a great motivator. She has an enormous amount of expertise and is always quick to respond to all of my questions or concerns. It is well worth it to work with Lisa.
Lisa smith is an amazing coach who
trains the soul as well as the body!
I met Lisa a year ago, when I was training for a half marathon and that was the height of my running goal. Since then, she has given me the courage and physical stamina to raise the bar and I have done 2 marathons and I'm one of her 5 clients headed to IMAZ in a couple weeks. Never in my wildest dreams did I think I'd do any of these. She improved my fitness while at the same time allowing me to recover from an injury I did to myself. I have been injury-free since then. She has an amazing ability to inspire people to dream big and she's remarkably intuitive about when you need to be pushed and when you need a break. She's my biggest support and my biggest fan (next to mom!). She is a gifted coach.
Annemarie
I have been a client of Lisa Smith-Batchen since 2005. My original goal was to run the 2006 Marathon Des Sables - which I did. Then I did it again in 2008. I now focus on Ultras. Her training, insight and support is sensational. She has changed my life and I am so very grateful to have found such a talented coach and dear friend.
Ed Kelly
Hey Goat,
Just thought I'd mention about a coach up here in Canada too. Me.
I coach runners of all ability levels and all distances. I’ve been running since 1982 and coaching since 1990. I started coaching at the high school track level and have moved up in distance since then. Having a number of years of ultras under my belt, I am now offering my coaching services to ultra runners as well.
For more information, please visit www.HealthandAdventure.com
Take care,
Derrick
I've been training with Howard Nippert for almost a year, and have seen an incredible improvement in my running and not an injury in sight. Not only is he a world-class athlete, as are the other coaches you listed, but I'm confident in his physiological knowledge. He's always available, always responsive, and willing to help in any way. Dude is awesome. Can't wait to see what he and his teammates do this weekend.
Hey Goat,
Just thought I'd throw this out there: I would be happy to coach anybody who wants to finish a 100 mile race (I've done 20 since 2000).
I don't charge any money but I do like beer. Interested people can email me at:
awilkins@communityschool.org
Unless they live within an hour of Ketchum, ID my coaching services are only available over the phone or the computer.
AJW
Lisa Batchen-Smith has coached me for two years through the MDS, the 100km del Passatore in Tuscany, Italy and most recently the 8-day Gore-Tex Transalpine Race. She is inspirational and I would recommend her to anyone who is looking to achieve their best.
Ian Coles
Bermuda
Signature wrestling move... I use to use it often and its known as "The Solid Slam." Ah the good ole days...
Then I started running... what a combination!
Happy to help at low cost!
SJ
Jamie Donaldson has been coaching me for over 6 months. I was able to complete my 1st 100K this year and plan to conquer my 1st 100 miler in the spring. Jamie has helped me go from go from a couch potato to almost an ultra runner:)
I've been working with Carmichael Training Systems Senior Coach Scot Van Asten and have had great success. As a multi-sport athlete he has helped me continue to balance cycling, long distance running,adventure racing, and keep me healthy.
http://www.trainright.com/coaches.asp?uid=1227
CV
I ran my first 50 in 2006 and finished 15 min. past the cutoff. With Lisa' coaching I came in 2nd for my age group the following year. In 2008 I've completed:a second 50; MDS and my first 100. Lisa listens and gives you a plan.
Steve Wolk
Lisa has been my coach since training me for my first ultra in 2005, the Marathon des Sables. Then came a "50", a number of 100 milers and this year's decent finish at Badwater (35th out of 80). She has kept me injury free, has respected my training preferences when building a schedule and has gotten me ready physically AND mentally for each race. Lisa's coaching is very personal, and personally focused. She just gets it. When I consider how far I've come in the ultra game in 3 1/2 years, with a broken leg and a bout with prostate cancer in between, I'd say its the lucky few who have the privilege of training under Lisa's coaching genius.
Bob Becker
Is a coach necessary? Just curious. I've learned more from websites (Kevin Sayer's) and from reading reports and writings from hugely successful runners like AJW, M. Hart, J. Browning, Anton (not so much learned from AK, but, damn inspiring), etc. At $110/month for most coaching I've seen (which, by the way, is primarily email and phone based), it just doesn't make sense to a poor guy like myself when there is AMPLE material out there online.
Anyone else have thoughts on this? The one time I listened to a "coach" I ended up with more salt in my system than the Dead Sea.
Tim
Tim,
I agree that a coach is not necessary for many; however, they may be useful for some. Some folks don't want to take the time to do all the research and a coach is there expert, while others like the accountability of a coach. I've not had a "coach" since I began ultrarunning, but learned my running basics from high school and college coaches and then read a great deal about the top ultrarunners and talked to many other experienced runners.
This past August, I completed my first 100 mile ultra - the Grand Teton 100. Three years ago, I couldn't even run around the block. I sought out Lisa Smith Batchen after reading about her in an ESPN Magazine article. My request to her was simple, 'Help me complete my first half marathon' - The Jersey Half. She got me through that one and then encouraged me to enter my first marathon. I entered the Anchorage Marathon and completed that too. She made me believe in myself and my ability to run not only marathons but also ultra endurance events. She urged me to try the Rocky Raccoon 50 this past February and coached me through that too. And just when I thought that a 50 miler was the end of the line for me, she urged me on to the Grand Teton 100 and helped me finish that too! Lisa has an amazing ability to bring out the best in people and all I can say to her is "What's next"!
Check out her training camps. She holds them in some of the most beautiful places on this earth. I attended her camp in Death Valley as well as the one in Grand Targhee, Wyoming. I regret missing the one in the Galapagos. I've made many friends along the way and I've had many spiritual adventures. Thank you Lisa!!! You've given me a new perspective on the possibilities in this life time!!!
Ed Mafoud
Lisa has talents and expertise that extend beyond simply "running coaching." Much of her knowledge and technique involves nutrition, clothing, pacing, and strategy for running/races. Many may not need a coach, but under her guidance, I was able to complete Badwater and MDS...two races I would not have wanted to undertake without having had the advice of someone who had been there...and won them. Kira Matukaitis
Seems to me after looking at all the coaching information on all the web sites that some call themself a coach. Just because you are a great runner does this make you a good coach? What credentials goes with being a coach?
Paying for a coach is more than worth it if you are getting what you want and need out of the coaching. From the looks of it some of these calling themself a coach and charging for it have no education to back it up?
Thank you for the information on all of the above.
Josh in NYC
Josh,
Two important things. (1) I don't think that a great runner necessarily makes a great coach, although they can be. A great runner may be great because they are physically gifted or may not be able to communicate or work with students effectively. (2) I don't think the type of formal "education" that you may be looking for necessarily translates into being a good ultrarunning coach. For example, a USATF coaching cert that relates to track running ain't going to translate into knowing how to coach an ultrarunner. Not that formal education is bad, but there's a lot of ultrarunning that is self-taught and self-discovered and you'll only see their education by looking at the athletic resume.
I'm on the Lisa bandwagon! I signed-up with Lisa a few years ago after reading the wonderful testimonials on her website. It's hard to believe that she has so many students because Lisa makes you feel like you are her only priority (aside from her family!). I went from a jogger who had finished a marathon to doing ultraruns and completing my first 100 miler all under Lisa's tutelage. And no injuries! Lisa gives you a solid training plan and is so responsive to answering questions or concerns. I recommend Lisa 110% if you're serious about your training - she's the real deal. ~~Marcy
Just wanted to throw a few of my thoughts in...Josh and others are right that a coach isn't necessary. Running ultras isn't brain surgery and part of the fun and challenge for many people is learning the ropes on their own. Finally, a good coaching relationship shouldn't be one that goes on for ever; the idea is to give a runner the tools necessary to feel confident about charting her own training and race stratagies going forward.
That being said, here are the 3typical runner types that I've seen who seem to benefit most from a coach:
1. Somebody who has decided she wants to run an ultra but really doesn't have a built-in support system of other local runners to run with and learn from. Many of these runners mistakenly believe that, "If I ran 45 miles a week for that marathon last year, I probably need to run 100 miles a week to do a 50 mile." For this runner, it is really a mentoring situation and giving reassurance that the amount of running they are doing is fine; they just need to work on some of the logistics and strategy aspects of longer running, such as fueling.
2. A good runner who is already putting in plenty of effort and getting good results, but has never had a structured training program (never ran in HS or college) and feels like he isn't getting the most out of their efforts.
3. Somebody who has had a really bad first ultra experience and is very apprehensive about giving another one a shot unless they feel like they have a better chance of finishing, etc.
- Paul D
Credentials? I have credentials! I'm a NSCA Certified Strength & Conditioning Specialist (CSCS)and Road Runners Club of Amercica certified coach. I'm also a PSIA Level 2 certified Alpine Ski Instructor. Kelly Wilson
I first heard about Lisa when one of my friends ran MDS 06 (he had trained with Lisa to prep for it). I was 52 and had run nothing but Chicago marathons each of the previous few years--and I had developed an alarming pattern of nagging leg injuries. So I started working with Lisa in the summer of '06 and I'd be hard-pressed to explain how incredible the transformation has been. Within 6 months I ran my 1st ultra (RR50 -- 2nd in my age group), and then MDS later that spring, and then my 1st 100 mile ultra in Jul of 07 (VT100). Then in 08, RR50, MDS, KM100, and GT100. All with good results; and all with NO INJURIES. I barely have any muscle aches anymore, let alone any serious injury. I'm sure this is due to Lisa's approach which includes a lot of cross-training for me (spinning, yoga, stairmaster, ellyptical, jump rope, etc.). I also try to include at least one of Lisa's training camps a year into my program; they are a great way for me to re-focus, and to meet other runners from the ultra community. I would recommend Lisa to anyone who wants to get serious about fitness. You'll feel great physically, but you'll also get a mental, and even spiritual, boost as well. Terry Madl
Rumor has it Jamie Donaldson will head up an ultra running camp this summer in Colorado, focusing on training, nutrition and sports psychology.
Paul, thanks for clarifying the needs for coaching, makes a lot of sense. Although I'd add a key criteria: the ability of the individual to self-motivate, self-discipline and self-teach.
Geez, I like Andy's cool position on the topic. Although I'm really not sure about the beer side. Sure it seems to work for you, Andy, but is this your best coaching advice? ;-) Is it what gives you this enthusiasm for running and competing, and this self-confidence? A carbo-loading trick or mental booster?
Now that presidential debates are over, maybe we have you and Lisa debating over this fueling (aka drinking) dilemma! ;-)
Good luck to all, with fun, with or without a coach!
Jean.
Farther Faster
Coaches certainly aren't necessary. Like Tim said, you can learn plenty by reading race reports, etc. from successful runners. That said, I have worked with Gill at Bad to the Bone for 2 years and remain a big fan. I am hoping to take things to the next level in 2009 and expect the advice I get will be a key factor. Just my opinion.
I emailed 'Sherpa' John and never heard back. I then looked up some results, and I don think he is qualified to coach...and wonder if he still is as he does not answer email. Maybe you should take him off your lost?
Anon of 5/29/09, I removed Sherpa John until I learn that he's back in the fold.
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